Saturday, November 24, 2007

Inconceivable

Trainable Ice Block. Inconceivable. Inconceivable.

As I sit here in the very charming White Plains airport and listen to the many excuses as to why we cannot take off anytime soon, let's think 2.3.2.

I said before I felt trainable IB was needed, but that it, without other changes, would not reduce the prevalence of WE as the arena spec. The Icy Veins talent was really no shock -- most people were predicting a new 21 point PvE talent; I thought that Cold Snap would become the 21 and the 11 would be a nonsense PvE thing, but this isn't entirely the case. If Icy Veins were simply a brief casting speed buff without the increased chance to freeze, I think people would let it go as marginally useful, but not worth obsessing over, it's the increased freeze proc shatter synergy that leaves many of our mage panties firmly in a bunch.

Basically, there are a few specs that have significant potential with the 2.3.2 changes:

33/28/0 - This is pretty fucking obvious. I see big potential for this in 2s as mage/rogue or mage/lock and less obvious, but still solid potential in the traditional 3s/5s matrices. Imp CS, IWIN, blazing speed, etc. Ice Block keeps you alive against DoTs and hunters (well a little bit) and the improved mana gems should allow for slightly more use of mana shield and alleviate the cost of chain casting with AP up. The spec will be pretty satisfying in BGs against low resilience targets and the combination of IWIN and Ice Block should allow for some nice 1vN that was probably not previously possible without gay Water Elemental tanking.

0/41/20 - DB is fucking awesome and terrible at the same time. Why it shares a cooldown with CoC boggles the fucking mind. The inability to kite for shit, the lack of silence, atrocious mana efficiency, and not enough talent points to get what you need really are the big problems with this spec. Do you ignore fireball entirely and max out shit like playing with fire? Or ignore crit shit like Pyromaniac and Incinerate and max out all 10 fireball points? Compromise and just take empowered? I don't fucking know. Scorch sucks dick still. Icy Veins and Bloodlust do nothing for it, but then again, once the casting speed buffs are up, does the .5 second on fireball matter much? I'll almost certainly be playing this spec, but it is inevitably going to be love-hate. Bottom line is that DB reeks of unexplored potential, molten fury is severely underrated, and the playstyle will be ridiculously fun.

0/10/51 - You can play whatever gay variant you wish. Fuck off. Bigger mana gems means clearcasting is more of a non-factor and you can afford to fireblast more often. Hell you might even talent that shit, WHO KNOWS. Yeah, it's true that the Icy Veins + Ice Armor fusion makes you not want to use Molten quite as much, but honestly just kill yourself.

17/0/44 - I have no words for you. No words.

0/38/23, 41/20/0, 41/0/20 etc - Baller spec is less attractive than 0/41/20, but having only one IB might be too great a liability. The problem is that you don't get much love out of Icy Veins, and while in oldschool WoW, you could do elemental "frost side" (24/27), those specs don't make much sense anymore to me; I always hated 30/31 as you hit like a bitch. No offense to bitches. But you do. The slow specs have potential to gay the fuck out of people in the small arena brackets and if you're on some bumblefuck battlegroup full of hunters and shamans, go for it. Shit I can't wait for sick 2v2 vids from slow mages fighting only hunter/X and shaman/X teams. Blast some Fort Minor and zoom in on big pyro crits, fuck yeah.

That's all the theorycrafting I got in my head right now. I'm sorry if you expected my normal gayness and instead found this faggotry, but there will still occasionally be WoW ramblings. ^^

Post up thoughts on what you think you'll be doing next patch or if you think I'm a fucking moron.

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

IMO 21/40/0 > 33/28/0.

Anonymous said...

37/24 for meee

Anonymous said...

great post, i think your blog should consist of 50% mage related things and 50% lmao gayness.
on topic: elemental (41/20 or baller) is/will be the most fun, but in arena 0/7/54 or whatever variant will prevail

lacey said...

klassick hope you're playing cod4 instead

alexial said...

5% pleasure, 20% pain, and 100% reason to remember the name.

Fort Minor. M Shinoda. Styles of Beyond.

Warcrafter said...

17.0.44 still the best IMO, IMP CS is sooo valuable, especially for duels, so there is no way casters can interrupt your frostbolt --> shatter combo.

Yes|Stonemaul said...

Raddy, you forgot about 17\44\0, i have tryed it on ptr and well...its one of the best possible specc for arena tbh...imp cs\blazing speed+IB+fire dmg=win

Raddy said...

I kind of ignored 17/44 because I generally feel picking up shatter, better ice lance, and veins is better, but perhaps 17/44 has a place as well.

Anonymous said...

Shatter combos, which often go for 4k+, can only be matched by POM PYRO for best burst damage in the main class. and, once ur POM PYRO is done, if u havent won already, GL staying alive.......

Combustion is also nice in arenas

Kolenzo said...

Veins is overrated. It's only 20% spell haste, not 20% cast time reduction. The calculation is casttime/1.2, not casttime x .8.

Shatter is great and all, but you can still get decent ice lances off a frost nova if you need it (and in fact its less likely to break, since you're less likely to crit). Use nova/lance when you need to move, and scorch otherwise.

Kirby said...

I'm just still playing 10ish fire and the rest in frost.

Am I a bad, bad man?

^oo^ said...

i just had a fucking car accident, now im gonna be stuck at home till the car gets fixed.

17/44/0 was definitely incredibly fun when i specc'd it...only problem was mana issues back then. with imp cs + db interrupt even healers were manageable...and once every 3mins its IWIN time =p

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking arcane/frost could be pretty saucy again. Veins will give a fairly reliable frostbite proc to enable the AP frostbolt -> POM frostbolt combo.

Anonymous said...

no u ^

Icicles said...

37/0/24 definitely seems like it could be destructive, but more rewarding to the opposing team to attack you. Gonna try it out with a plan of AM w/ CC, Shatter, or Focus and Frostbolt the rest of the time.

Basically the spec is godly if you get left alone but uh...yeah...

And I'd love to spec DB/Shatter but I hate not maxing Fireball :(

Pwyff said...

33/28/0 Fire Mage or some other variant + AR/Prep Rogue + Resto Druid might prove to be better at the rushdown than RMP. Alot more babysitting from the Druid lets you actually spec Fire and live.

POTENTIALITY ABOUND, ETC.

P.S. RMP is fat.

Anonymous said...

I actually liked the article, mostly due to excessive use of the word gay, but that is besides the point.

magdain said...

No love for the return of ap/frost?

2345 with disc priest ap/frost mage = yes plz. mage and shaman with ap at the same time gogo.

gablo said...

julian says you guys are thinking about 2s? hooray?

Anonymous said...

would be pretty crazy to pick up dragons breath instead of cold snap...

dms said...

gonna stay true to the baller spec tbh

Anonymous said...

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0qcofdrIzbZZVVGzobxo
I was thinking of going 36/0/25 next season with a 2345 setup, bloodlust + icy veins + AP = awesome burst

asdf said...

20/20/21 is gonna be huge

Opportunist said...

"would be pretty crazy to pick up dragons breath instead of cold snap..."


FUCK.

COLD.

SNAP.

The spec makes a lot of pussies nervous, but those who do walk out of arena's with it, walk out proud.

Ive said...

FU RADDY, I'M SPECCING ICE FLOES!!!

Anonymous said...

what metagem for next season? any1 with info about the skyfire diamond nerf?

eltariel said...

0/7/54, or something similar. still lovin' the deep frost playstyle.

Anonymous said...

Trainable iceblock...db/imp cs? blazing speed, running all over the place while impacting kids with reckless abandon?

2.3.2 seems like it's gonna make grabbing your satchel of grenades and heading into ab fun as hell....

Raddy said...

haha <3 ive

@anon: I agree 2.3.2 is going to make BGs WAY more fun.

Xbox said...

will you make out with me if I make a slow video that has fort minor?

klassick said...

LACEY IM PLAYING COD4 WHERE YOU AT?

eltariel said...

speccing fire for bg's is living the old pre-tbc days, and who the fuck ISN'T up for that?

eltariel said...

speccing fire for bg's is living the old pre-tbc days, and who the fuck ISN'T up for that?

lacey said...

klassick #wbs, on a team with an irl friend and 3 dudes who aren't too bad...not smf, but it works for now :o

rahvin said...

the princess bride is my favorite movie

Anonymous said...

What is it that makes Radikal's writing so spicy? So saucy? So FUCKING delicious??

It's the "gay" pure and simple. No one uses the word "gay" like Radikal. NOBODY.

Anonymous said...

I lust after a spec with DB. Unfortunately I have no balls and sing in the Vienna Boy's Choir and therefore will be speccing a deep frost variant.

Altius said...

33/0/28 gives a little somethin' somethin' of both worlds (bg/arena)... although 0/41/20 may be the new 'gay' spec.

Did blizz ever fix the effect of resilience on the talented 250% crit damage calculation? Does crit damage get calculated before or after resilience comes into affect?

testes testes, one, two, three...

Metanoia said...

17/0/44 is still the best undoubtably.